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Old 12-17-2003, 05:22 AM   #16
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System services don't have icons I doubt I can get that in to 5.4... but most certainly, 5.5 will run as service
I am just curios - what are the advantages of running ioftpd as a system service and not as it is now?
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Old 12-17-2003, 10:02 AM   #17
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A service can be automatically started when the computer start, with no user login required.

btw. for those who didn't hear yet or didn't read... site who will be no more in 5.4
site swho will be available, and will list all users from all services.
also, ShowActivity is no more in 5.4

So that means that u can't (shouldn't in fact) allow normal users to use any built-in site s/who.
You won't be able to hide any dirs from site swho. You won't be able to hide any users (using another service for example) from site swho.

That basically means that if u use ioB, u'll need a replacement site who. Maybe something Harm will come up with, when he's done with his exams. Hum. In fact, site cid listbot might actually be used for that... Anyway, Harm's should fix something for u users.

And it also means that if u want normal users to have a site who, you'll need to get one of the avail. scripts.
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Old 12-17-2003, 10:12 AM   #18
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A service can be automatically started when the computer start, with no user login required.
This can be done by adding it to the startup, so what's the advantage in making it a service?
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Old 12-17-2003, 10:27 AM   #19
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No this can't be done by adding it to startup.
Startup items need a user login.
Services don't.
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Old 12-17-2003, 12:49 PM   #20
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there are already alternative site who`s inc. ioFTPWHODLX
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Old 12-17-2003, 02:07 PM   #21
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there are already alternative site who`s inc. ioFTPWHODLX
Yep, and imho it's much better for the purpose than internal who (easy to customize & add custom rules)
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Old 12-17-2003, 06:30 PM   #22
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I think that the site who command should be handled by the FTP server...I mean sure you could write a script but that kinda defeats the purpose... glftpd, r*, bulletproof...all have site who commands part of the ftp server.. :/

A script does allow customization, but thats what xwho/swho/etc are for and the normal who should be handled by the ftp. This is how I see it, but i guess I'm the only one who thinks this.
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Old 12-17-2003, 08:29 PM   #23
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Normal who is for administrative purposes, not for normal users to snoop around. I can leave it as who, but it will lack features that you're expecting 'who' to have (masking paths, hiding users... things that administrative who doesn't need)
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Old 12-17-2003, 10:48 PM   #24
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Sounds good

I use who for basic info, and I made a small swho script for administrative purposes. Siteops can see all hidden paths/users/groups and IPs where as normal users can only nonhidden users/groups/paths and so on.

Great work d1
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Old 12-18-2003, 07:20 PM   #25
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Here's how default swho looks like.. hope you like it as much as I do


Code:
[19:14:18] [L] site swho
[19:14:18] [L] 200- CID  USER         STATUS        HOSTNAME
[19:14:18] [L] 200-   0  ioFTPD       Dn     5kb/s  *@spawn
[19:14:18] [L] 200-   1  ioFTPD       Idle          *@spawn
[19:14:18] [L] 200-   2  -wait auth-  Idle          *@spawn
[19:14:18] [L] 200 swho Command successful.
---------------
[19:14:23] [L] site swho 0
[19:14:23] [L] 200-Login    : ioFTPD
[19:14:23] [L] 200-From     : *@spawn on FTP_Service
[19:14:23] [L] 200-Online   : 0h 2m 0s
[19:14:23] [L] 200-Command  : RETR debian.iso
[19:14:23] [L] 200-Path     : /pub/debian/unstable/debian.iso
[19:14:23] [L] 200-Transfer : Download 5.3kb/s
[19:14:23] [L] 200 swho Command successful.
--------------
[19:14:25] [L] site swho 2
[19:14:25] [L] 200-Login    : -wait auth-
[19:14:25] [L] 200-From     : *@spawn on FTP_Service
[19:14:25] [L] 200-Online   : 0h 0m 10s
[19:14:25] [L] 200-Command  : 
[19:14:25] [L] 200-Idle     : 0h 0m 10s
[19:14:25] [L] 200 swho Command successful.

17.12.2003 18:56 276 ClientInfo.Download
17.12.2003 18:56 296 ClientInfo.Idle
17.12.2003 18:55 267 ClientInfo.Login
17.12.2003 18:56 274 ClientInfo.Upload
17.12.2003 19:12 97 ClientList.Download
17.12.2003 19:13 41 ClientList.Header
17.12.2003 19:13 81 ClientList.Idle
17.12.2003 19:13 80 ClientList.Login
17.12.2003 19:13 97 ClientList.Upload

There's also ClientList.Footer Did you notice that I changed naming of text files ...... I better stfu, so I don't leak too much info about coming version; I'm sure it'll keep you busy for few days
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Old 12-20-2003, 09:42 AM   #26
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What happens if ioFTPD as a system service will crash because of a script bug or another issue? Will that cause a total OS crash too? How do you re-start ioftpd service if and when it crashes?
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Old 12-20-2003, 09:53 AM   #27
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start/stop/edit services :
start > run > services.msc

your OS will not get crashed by ioFTPD, as far as i know that is only possible by drivers and other kernel-mode programs

crashes will get logged in your system event logs, those can be accessed by:
start > run > eventvwr.msc
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Old 12-20-2003, 02:29 PM   #28
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bleh wrong thread
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Old 12-20-2003, 02:29 PM   #29
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Yep user level programs shouldn't be able to cause os crash... (there are rare exception to this)
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Old 12-21-2003, 08:18 PM   #30
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Neoxed is currently testing 5.4 If all goes well, latest version will be available for public download tomorrow.
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